Fast track your career with Myers Briggs: Four-day webinar with Penelope Trunk
This webinar is to show you how to leverage your strengths with Myers Briggs. It includes four days of of video sessions and email-based course materials. You can purchase this workshop for anytime, on-demand access. The cost is $195.
I have too much to say about Myers Briggs to be contained in just my blog posts. So I’m doing a webinar. Also, Melissa and I have so much fun with you guys in these webinars, and we want to do another. During the last two, people kept saying we should do a Myers Briggs one.
So here it is, with a special guest: the guy who taught me about Myers Briggs, Rob Toomey. It started out that I interviewed him, in the olden days, when I was a columnist at the Boston Globe and actually did interviews. Then I would call him just to ask him things:
Q: Why do I hate my INTJ co-worker?
A: Everyone hates INTJs but INTJs don’t care. They just want the work done.
Okay. To be fair, Rob doesn’t talk like that. He’s very diplomatic. I am summarizing his wisdom. But in the webinar, it will be a lot of Rob talking. (And he will be fun, because he’s an ENTP, and ENTPs are fun.)
The biggest reason to understand Myers Briggs is that just about every company in the Fortune 500 uses it as part of training for senior management. If you understand the meaning of your own score you will immediately become more effective at meeting your goals, and if you understand other people’s scores you’ll be way better at communicating with them.
Naturally, when I heard that top leaders in the Fortune 500 get this training, I had to have it too. And my path to expertise was the typical journalist path: I bugged my source incessantly til Rob was not a source but a friend.
Then when I was running Brazen Careerist, I would not shut up about Myers Briggs. I told everyone in the company that they had to take the test, and when they refused, I said, “Forget it, I’m so good at it I know your score anyway.”
Just to prove me wrong, they took the test.
And I was right. Which I tell you only to show how smart you can be about everyone if you understand Myers Briggs.
So this is the last thing I’m gonna tell you about the webinar. Everyone should sign up. I’m not kidding. Having a solid understanding of Myers Briggs has changed every aspect of my life. And it’s going to be really fun because I love Rob and I love Melissa, and this is my dream-come-true Myers Briggs party.
Here’s the official announcement of what we’ll do:
What you get: Everyone will receive course materials, including a link to take the Personality Type quiz, and you will receive an explanation of your personality type. And, if you cannot watch the sessions live, you can download the recordings later. Plus, we’ll cover the following topics:
Day one: How to Become a Myers Briggs Expert
- Understand your type. If you understand your own score you will overcome your weaknesses more readily and you will put yourself in positions where you are likely to succeed. Also, you’ll understand so much more about your past because you’ll have a better sense of who you are.
- Understand other people’s types. It’s actually possible to hear about twenty sentences from someone and get a good sense of their score. And once you get good at that, you feel like a mind reader. It’s incredibly empowering because it allows you to connect with people much faster, and more meaningfully than every before. (This includes your kids. It’s so obvious to me that everyone should use Myers Briggs to parent. I can’t believe it’s not taught at PTA meetings.)
- Use that information to be an extraordinary communicator. The key to talking to people so they will listen is understand how they want to hear you. Using Myers Briggs information to guide your communication makes you a better leader, better manager, better collaborator and even a better parent.
Day two: Leverage Myers Briggs to Make Work Great
- Be a better manager by understanding what motivates different types of people. You can only motivate people by using what they care about, not what you care about. Understanding the difference is essential to being able to lead a wide range of people.
- Become a star in your career by understanding what truly sets you apart from other people at work. We underestimate our standout strengths because they are so natural to us. They come so easily to us that we assume most people have them. The best way to understand how we are special is to understand other peoples’ strengths in the context of our own. This allows us to see how we fit together and how we stand out as well.
- Recognize your hurdles as a product of your personality type and find new ways around them. Each of use can get to the top of our field if we know what is holding us back. Most people have a sense of their weakness, but weaknesses are paired with strengths, and if you see your weakness as part of your package you’ll understand better how to compensate.
Day three: Leverage Myers Briggs to Make Your Personal Life Great
- Find your best career path. If you’re stuck or you’re looking to change careers, you absolutely should understand the demands of your personality type before you move forward. The best way to make a smart career move is to do it in the context of your strengths within your personality type and what will make you feel fulfilled. For many people fulfillment is a mystery. Believe me: it will not be after this session.
- Find your best inspiration. If you surround yourself with people who drain you, you don’t benefit and neither do they. Often, though, we pick people who are familiar to us instead of who is best for us. At work and at home our inspiration comes from our environment—if it is conducive to our finding fulfillment. Understanding your Myers Briggs score is like getting a recipe for creating surroundings that will encourage your fulfillment.
- Find your best mate. Really. You can use Myers Briggs to find your best mate. The system totally works. And even if it’s too late to pick a mate based on your Myers Briggs score, understanding your needs in this context will make you better at getting your needs fulfilled, no matter who you are with.
Day four: Ask any question!
This will be the day we sort out individual issues with your score or your work or your life. And we will all learn about how other people think by hearing their score and their problems.
The cost is $195.
This is a cool idea.
It’s funny you just can’t benefit from what you don’t know.
Somehow people expect to dream their way to the top.
It doesn’t work that way people. Get help.
Just checked the calender – Feb 3 is a Sunday – is the class starting on Sunday?
Does this class fulfill any requirements in order to get the MBTI Certification Program?
Yes, it’s a Sunday. I had this idea that it’s a fun jump on the workweek.
And no, this does not get you any certification. (But you know what? You don’t need certification in order to be smart about who you are and a good communicator with other people. That stuff shows up all over your life if you have it – -no one needs to ask for certification. )
Penelope
Getting a jump on the work week would be fun, but did you realize that Feb 3 is also Super Bowl Sunday? Your first session should just about overlap the 4th quarter.
Its ridiculous that I didn’t notice that! You can download the video for that night and watch it after the game.
Penelope
Signed up!! So excited.
Thank you for starting on a Sunday, I think that is a really great idea.
After reading this I just had to read the personality profile of INTJ.
The profile calls to mind for me the descriptions I’ve been reading in the news of Adam Swartz, whom I’ve never met.
*Aaron Swartz* sorry for getting his name wrong.
I had premonition something like this was coming, I signed up! And I’ve already had plenty of professional help.
Hi Jenn –
Since you have had professional help with similar personality profiling before, could you give me some feedback on how you found them helpful?
Thanks.
TD,
Sorry, no, that was a snarky response to the top comment about (I’m assuming) psychiatric counseling, like on a couch.
I have only taken free on-line Myers briggs tests, but knowing my result has helped me a lot to understand myself. I’ve also joined the Facebook group for my type, and that has been a relief to find others similar to me.
Hope that helps! -j
As an INTJ, I can confirm that Rob’s answer was 100% correct :)
I’m an INTJ (or thought I was until that comment). I do care what others think–and it’s always bothered me that I haven’t fit in. It’s felt like there was something wrong with me.
Learning I’m an INTJ, very rare for females, suddenly explained much of my life to me. I still think I’m INTJ, as every other description I’ve read has fit me to a tee–in scary-accurate kind of ways.
Would love to take the seminar, but living on the west coast, the timing doesn’t work.
INTJ descriptions don’t take into account gendered socialization, where women are trained to care about others’ opinions regardless of innate tendencies. I’m sure things like ESFP doesn’t take into account male socialization to look cool and aloof, either.
Penelope, have you read much about the OCEAN personality model? I stumbled across it the other day while reading this wapo article (http://bit.ly/Wl4yhs) on Myers Briggs and was intrigued by the assertion that it’s a much more well researched (and therefore credible) personality model than MB.
Also, I just typed this and thought, “Penelope will probably hate me for dissing MB on her post promoting her workshop” … but then I remembered I’m an INTJ and I’m going to post the comment anyway. :)
Anyhoo, I’d love your thoughts on OCEAN. I’m just starting to look into it. It’s been my experience that different personality tests each lend their own perspective and insight. The seminar sounds fun. I’m definitely thinking about joining!
There are like, I don’t know, one billion personality type quizzes and systems out there. I think the important thing is to find one that works for you — it should give you a way to categorize yourself and everyone around you in a way that lets you improve your self-knowlege and communicate better.
The seminar will mix programs anyway. Rob is not strictly MBTI. He has a company (type-coach.com) that does their own, proprietary test. I love Rob’s test, and mixing and matching works really well for me.
Penelope
Something that worries me is that type-coach treats the P and the J as having distinct characteristics such as you like things organized or you do things on time. But really, everything comes down to the 8 cognitive functions of Ti, Te, Fi, Fe, Ni, Ne, Si, Se. All the first and last letters of the four letter codes do is determine the order and direction (i or e) of the functions you use.
I know I use introverted thinking (Ti) and extroverted feeling (Fe) and that I am a strong user of intuition (N, whether Ni or Ne) and a weak user of sensing (S, whether Si or Se).
So I have this problem where I may be an INFJ (NiFeTiSe) or I may be an INTP (TiNeSiFe). But tests seem useless in figuring this out because there is a 2 letter difference between the two codes. But to me, INFJ and INTP are very similar. Coincidentally, look where they appear in the image at the top of the post.
Crystal, I’m having some of the same difficulty. I found P’s webinar right after having taken the MB (AGAIN!) on Friday. I took it a few months ago and was INFJ. On Friday, in a different context, in a classroom setting, I was an INTP.
So, when I got home, I went to type-coach and took all four of the descriptions there that most applied to me (though I really need to expand to at least six to include the T’s) and highlighted the things that I could affirm from the types I have “landed” at, and wrote my observations next to the ones I disagree with. I’ve felt schizophrenic. And people definitely see me as one type (for instance, extroverted), when I fit even better the descriptions of the other type (highly analytical with a deep inner world no one knows about, like the I that I keep testing out to be).
I’m also NOT calm and serene on the exterior, even though I am rather flexible in my FP. I seem high energy to others, and when I’m “in the zone”, I connect very strongly and quickly with even strangers in settings up to the size of small classes or parties (about 30 or less). But for the most part, people really don’t know what to do with me on a personal level, because I am so analytical and missional, and not very playful. I care very deeply, and my value set and views on the nature of truth lead me to make decisions, in the end, like an F, but not until after I wrangle it a long time like a T (in my own head). I don’t fit any of the descriptions absolutely.
But I don’t need to for this to be of some help for me, so I’ve signed up. I’m hoping to gain insight into who I should bring onto my team to complement me.
Crystal or Penelope, does either of you have more information on the distinctiong Crystal made? A link, perhaps, that you especially like? Otherwise, of course, I can google it.
Oh my gosh, I want to take this course so badly. Is it characteristic for any of the personalities to never know what your personality is? I’ve taken this twice and always end up right on the edge of opposite codes….
Yes! Definitely characteristic for some types to not be certain of their type. One of the reasons Rob developed his own test is so that he could help people who are often on the fence with their personality type feel more certain about who they are.
Penelope
Damn, this is so intriguing. Do you have deals for poor people?
Hi Penelope! I love the idea but…over the span of 5 yrs, I’ve taken Myers Briggs twice and got very different results. (and the last one had me at 50-50 for 2 of the 4 qualities, rendering it almost useless). Can our results change day-by-day? If so, how accurate would the test be? Thanks!
Your test should not change day to day. One of the specialties of Rob’s company is helping people who can’t figure out what their score is. If you sign up for the course, Rob will personally make sure that you have the right score. He can do that because the personality type test he’s letting us use almost never fails :)
Penelope
“One of the reasons Rob developed his own test is so that he could help people who are often on the fence with their personality type feel more certain about who they are.”
What evidence is there that Rob’s test is in any way more accurate than any other, apart from Rob saying so or other people saying so? Just pointing out that this is awfully subjective, and Penelope or Rob or anyone swearing up and down that something is so does not make it so, scientifically speaking.
Not that I’m discouraging anyone from signing up if you think it may help you.
Hmm, no reply to my question about evidence. Interesting.
Hi, Sheila. I didn’t answer because I am pretty sure that someone who would write this question doesn’t like Myers Briggs at all. And I don’t want to be in the business of defending the theory of Myers Briggs. It’s used in all the Fortune 500 companies. That’s enough for me.
There are a bazilion versions of the Myers Briggs test out there. And it’s really easy to test the results of a Myers Briggs test. You give the test to someone, then you talk to them, and you see if their test results matched what they really are. The reason most companies don’t do that is it costs a lot of money to test the results that way. Rob does mostly workshops at companies where he is meeting each person, so he has the ability to test the results of his test all the time and keep improving it.
To be clear, though, the scores are a commodity — it’s easy to find out your score. It’s harder to know what to do with that information.
Penelope
Ok, Rob, you’re on! Because I’m one tough cookie. I’ve taken this several times, and I resonate quite strongly with several descriptions.
The Core Values Index, by the way, has a scientifically demonstrated validity rate of 94%, much higher than MB, and it is very helpful. But MB is still quite helpful, so I’m taking the seminar.
“Q: Why do I hate my INTJ co-worker?
A: Everyone hates INTJs but INTJs don’t care. They just want the work done.”
Oh dear – this is so me…! :P
I am INTJ. Everyone at work hates me?
When I talk about Myers-Briggs with people, many don’t understand how I’m able to read people with such certainty, or why I have the audacity to disagree with a test’s results of someone else’ type.
But once you actually understand the inner intricacies of MBTI, you start to know what underlying, correlative characteristics to look for in a person.
Probably my favorite thing about Myers-Briggs is that it gets me out of projecting my own personality onto others–falsely believing that what’s true for my personality is true for how someone else thinks, feels, plans, and perceives.
From that understanding, the more you know, the better you’ll get at being able to instantly adjust to the other person’s psychological framework, behavioral inclinations, and inner priorities.
How hard will the test be? Will i survive it as a non native speaking european (you know, misunderstandings, culture differences and such, vice versa, even)
And second: since i consider myself a very ambiguous person. There is a yes and a no side on everything! Do you guys even think, that it is possible to give straight answer to those questions in that quiz?
Well, in any way, i find such a seminar very intriguing, since i am pretty stuck on my very own. I do not know what or who i am. Or if there is even a categorization, that can satisfy me? Hm.
The test is easy because its fast and its about you. And many of the personality types hate yes/no questions and the test takes that into account.
Penelope
Both my fiancé and I want to take this seminar, so should I buy one spot or two? I already know my score (ENFP) but I want (need, really) to know more about it, while he doesn’t know what his type is at all. This is probably a dumb question, but I’m pretty sleep deprived at the moment, so my ability to think is non-existent. :/
Thanks!
My husband (INTJ) and I (ENFP) are currently arguing about which one of us should sign up. :-)
Argh! I really want to sin up for this, but it will be at about 2 AM my time. Hmmm.
…ha! I meant SIGN up. It must say something if I’m having such fun Freudian slips on a post about personality types.
I cannot even remotely afford this, but I hope you will follow up with some advice for us despised INTJ types. We really do not wish to offend, and in fact ,we are really rooting for the best possible outcome for everyone (we are not selfish, just opinionated, and we really DO care what happens to everyone). Thanks, Penelope, for understanding. Best,
Anne
Help. I’d love to join the seminar, but I’m at UTC and have an insanely busy couple of weeks and I’m struggling with the idea of handling 4 sessions at 2100-2200 EST.
Is there any chance the seminar will be available through dead video at a later date, or should I grow some and shut-up?
Yes, you can view the seminar on your own schedule, via video.
Penelope
To second/third the above: For those of us in Europe, can we download videos at a later point, to avoid a 2am / 3am start?
Yes! You can download the videos and watch whenever you want.
Penelope
I hope you’ll emphasize how knowledge of your type and recognition of other people’s types can make you more effective at working with people. So many people take these kinds of tests and it’s just a sort of internal validation or predictor that makes them feel better (or worse) about themselves. I thought the test was complete BS but then in one company we actually had a facilitator who followed up on the testing with a group session where we learned what it meant in the context of working with others. That was much more productive than my usual interpretation: “Of course I scored the test as an INTJ which fits my achievement-oriented view of myself. Now, if I can just work on those social skills I could be like an ENTJ and run the company.” ;)
Penelope, this is a great idea, and I’d love to sign up, but I have other commitments three of those four nights. If you offer it again in the future, I’d love to participate. Finding out that I’m an INTJ clarified so many things for me (including why former coworkers referred to me as “Rachel The Robot” – they told me this, after we went out drinking and they expressed surprise that I could be fun), and I’d love to expand my knowledge. I hope it’s a great success!
I am an INTJ and followed Penelope’s advice after reading her blog. I started helping out with strategic planning (never had done it before) and was recently promoted to lead it (mid cap, public company). Also, INTJs can work on their social skills and become what the Myers Briggs websites refer to as the “mature” INTJ. j
This sounds like a really good use of my time. I have only one question: I’ll be participating from Switzerland I just wanted to confirm that I’ll get the same value from the seminar just viewing the time-shifted recordings (since a 9pm start is 3am my time). The description mentions that the recordings will be available. I just wanted to make sure the value will still be there.
Luke
PS: i’ve tested as an INFJ and my life improved greatly when i embraced all the great things about this rare and quirky personality type ;-)
This is so great. I’m really excited. I think I have finally properly found my type (I was a bit split between two, but the great explanations at type-coach are really helpful) so it’s brought me to INFJ (which my best friend read and went dude it is you!! so I trust her to notice). (And explains why years of thinking I was an INFP left me so stressed and flailing when I didn’t plan things out.)
I got stuck in a meeting today where my two bosses started brainstorming out loud so for fun (and inspired by your post) I tried guessing the type of everyone on my team. Pretty sure I got two right off the bat (and our CEO is such an obvious ESTJ I’m sorry I hadn’t read about the type sooner!), and the other two I got only one letter wrong!
Knowing what they’re like means that when the E’s start throwing out ideas left and right I can just relax because that’s how they have to think. Or when my boss has to write everything down because she can’t remember details otherwise. She’s an ENFP and without those notes she is terrible at memory. It’s pretty cool how clearly someone is a certain combination once you know what you’re looking at.
So many INTJ’s here, I thought we where the rare type. Penelope knows her stuff, they’re the most obsessed with MBTI and improving themselves. *based on my very own reasoning sound or not* tell me I’m wrong.
True! INTJs love Myers Briggs.
Penelope
I read that the videos are available for download later, but will I be able to purchase them later? I’m an unemployed INFP.
I too am an INFP at a crossroads and notice there are many people commenting that they really want to take this but money is a factor — so will there be any other opportunities to receive the information in the future for those on tighter budgets?
I’m a trained MB practitioner from the UK and can attest to the tools Manu uses and facets. I think it’s important to remember that it’s an indicator and not a test (ie there is no right and wrong) and also that although your type doesn’t tend to change over time you can learn to adapt your behaviours and use all 8 preferences. It’s really about raising awareness.
Excited that more people are using this!
Jess (ENFP)
I’m a huge fan of your blog and I read evey post — first time commenting. I’m really curious why I never, and I mean NEVER, see any comments from ISFPs. Are we just not the type of people that would read Peneolope’s blog? The answer is no, obviously. Maybe we don’t like to comment? I feel a little lonely here. :)
Terrell, I’m an ISFP.! There’s a few comments from me here and there. Hope you are on the webinar! Jenn
Terrell/Jenn: A fellow ISFP Penelope groupie here ! No, youre not alone — we’re out here (just too busy hating INTJs to comment ; ) …
=^..^=
I manage a communications team for a large organization and have been studying and practicing mbti for years. I can predict most people’s type within minutes. I can attest that this is an invaluable tool for motivating and leading others AND yourself. My type (intp) is not typically found in management, from what I gather and observe, however I have learned to adapt my personality at work and have been very successful (though often very drained as well).
I am very interested in hearing from and about other INTPs in similar situations…or, frankly, in any situation. I am mildly obsessed with MBTI and think about it all the time.
If there are other INTPs on here would love to hear from you. Btw, I love INTJs too : )
I’m a (female) INTP. I was so glad when I figured out my type, because I’d always felt different than the other girls, and always related much better to men, but didn’t understand why. Now I know! The world makes a lot more sense now, e.g. when I stand in front of the magazine rack, and there don’t seem to be any aimed at me.
It’s also great to be able to see your weaknesses in perspective, rather than chastise yourself for not meeting your own standards. MBTI has been a great tool, that’s why recently I try to figure out other’s types, with varying degrees of success.
Lina, your comment really resonated with me. I relate really well to men, too, and I always chalkedit up to a great relationship with my dad, but you are right…being intp is probably a reason. I feel it’s a great asset to be a woman intp even though at times you can really feel like an outlier.
ps. Penelope, I am a huge fan of yours. Love your unconventional take on things and have given copies of Brazen Careerist to my young mentees, much to the chagrin of HR : )
This is a follow up to last post.
Looking forward for my second webinar with you and Melissa… and to find out my score.. I get different ones whenever I take the test.
I just took a MB test and came out INTJ. However, depending on the test and how I might be feeling at a given time and how the questions are worded, I have been an ENTF also. It measured me slightly IT&J, and I am a pretty solid N. I also find that I am consistently T as well, even if it is slight. But, my problem with this is I feel like I straddle a line between the 2 sides on most of these aspects, and I find it hard to really figure out what/who I am. I even notice this in the course of the test – I find I give seemingly contradictory responses among some questions (mostly about whether I am a planner and organized and how much I put thought into things).
Are there ways to accurately figure out another persons type without having them take a test?
YES Yes yes
“Everyone hates INTJs…”
Everyone…?? When Rob said that we don’t care that people hate us – it’s undoubtablely true when that hate is irrational and purely driven by emotion. I’m an INTJ female and I get a lot of indrect stick for not displaying many stereotypical female attributes.
Penelope, Penelope, I love you and I will be there. I’m an INFP!
Thank you SO much for doing this!
–Elizabeth
I love personality tests. I love enneagram, OCEAN, “What Color is your Aura” and even Chinese and western zodiac tests. I have books on palm reading and phrenology and that thing where they tell how easy you are to hypnotize by looking at your eyes. I adore this stuff. I want to like Myers-Briggs. I really do. But I don’t. I think it sucks and I can’t figure out why so many people put such store into it.
Unlike the enneagram, “What color is your aura”, and zodiac, Myers-Briggs doesn’t give you an easy-to-remember answer, like a number or a color or an animal. They have some shorthand, like “mastermind” or “artisan” or “enforcer” and these are great, but not universal.
Unlike enneagram, Myers-Briggs says who you are is set in stone, and can not ever be changed or altered. If you can’t change, what’s the point in any self-help book ever? If you believe you are x and will always be, what’s the motivation to expand your horizons?
Change may be the reason I get a completely different result every time I take the Myers-Briggs. 5 tests, over a period of 20 years, 5 different answers. I was shy, but I learned to be social. I used to daydream, but I’ve learned to take care of details. To say these are not meaningful changes is like telling someone who lost a lot of weight, “you are still a fat girl.”
Unlike OCEAN, Myers-Briggs type indicators don’t allow for a spectrum. In Myers-Briggs, you are one or the other. I think many (if not most) mentally healthy people are close to the middle of the spectrum. Being an emotionally healthy and mature adult means learning to balance empathy with logic, and knowing when to focus on the big picture, and when to focus on the details, for example.
By far the biggest problem with this type indicator test is that it’s all self-assessment, and self-assessment isn’t necessarily accurate. Callous jerks can think they’re nice guys. Finnish people can think they’re extroverted because they speak to at least one person every day. And whom are you comparing yourself to? Among ranchers in Wyoming, I’m high-strung and neurotic as a purebred cat. Among overeducated blogging Brooklyn 30-year-olds, I’m suddenly a zen master. The “good” tests ask about sometimes, always, never, but people generally think about whatever looms large in their mind. If you live with 8 brothers who are always hounding you, you’re likely to think you’re an introvert. If your co-worker reminds you ever day about tiny things that he remembers and you don’t, you might think you’re bad at details. Most of us don’t have a plethora of examples for these “sometimes, always, never”, and we’ll go with whatever looms largest.
I love your blog, Penelope, but when you say you’re so “good” at Myers-Briggs that you can guess people’s type without a test, I’m skeptical. Frankly, I’d be more impressed if you could guess my zodiac sign. At least my zodiac sign is an independently verifiable fact.
Spot on, Kater Cheek.
Crystal, that’s fascinating. Can you tell me where you learned all of that?? I thought I read everything there was to read but apparently not. I would love book suggestions. Thanks, Amy (intp)
Hey Amy,
If you’ve never seen anything about the cognitive functions before, the wikipedia page on “Jungian cognitive functions” has a lot of info. The Further reading section there lists the books that are considered the authorities on this.
If you’re looking for some free intro material, this guy on youtube is entertaining and enlightening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNTdSSLauQ&list=UUWWwQlDFnYbX_dgDP8lJ09A&index=16
and this forum is a good place to poke around for more info
http://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/24032-intro-function-theory-more-detailed-descriptions-each-function-attitude.html
I’m an INFP and I’m interested in your class… but in the past you seem to skip INFPs in your posts and, even when asked, you tend to answer for INFJs.
Will this class be useful for an INFP?
Great question, and I’d like to hear more on that too as another INFP.
“Q: Why do I hate my INTJ co-worker?
A: Everyone hates INTJs but INTJs don’t care. They just want the work done.”
That is the best quote ever (I’m an INTJ).
A
As an INTJ, I’d say it’s quite accurate!
HA!
I have a question for followers of this blog: have you taken a webinar with Penelope before? Did you like it? I’m thinking of doing this, but I’m terrified of Penelope! I’m pretty sure I’m an INFJ, in case you hadn’t guessed…
Shirley:
I would not miss this webinar for anything after joining in on the last one. Believe me I don’t say many things are fun – but the last one was a magical combination of intimacy, knowledge & spontaneity – and learning practical stuff – all at the same time. I was surprised by how much I loved it and missed it once it was over – you know the feeling of sitting around at the dinner table with good friends after a fine meal and chatting?
And for all of you worried about money – find the money – you cannot afford to miss it – it is a steal to be able to learn from Penelope in this format.
Sure, Penelope seems scary – but what she does is just tells it like she sees it – which I totally appreciate – and truth be told, she is very kind.
Hope that helps,
Jane
I am an INTJ, a rather extreme one at that with my test values approaching tops of the ranges. My co-workers absolutely hate me, which is why I have a job where I can shut myself in an office all day. Actually they don’t REALLY hate me, but it feels like they do. (I too noticed the strong prevelance of the type on this board. I have only known one other INTJ in a close working relationship…although I do work with an ENTJ, he’s rather amusing at times, especially when he tells everybody the way things are going to be….)
I also have the double whammy of being diagnosed with Aspergers. I made it over 40 years of life without even knowing what Aspergers is, I thought I was just “quirky”.
But it sure is fun nailing people with MBTI. I’ve gotten good at it too.
This book is a great resource for those wanting more info on their own type and how to communicate with others.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/185788552X
Also if you are unclear on your type it’s worth remembering that while we will use all 8 preferences our type is made up of the preference that we go to first. I hope that makes sense.
Jess
I tried to sign up with a MasterCard and it would not accept the card for payment although clearly it was acceptable. Annoying.
Hi, Rich. If you email me, I’ll help you troubleshoot.
Penelope
Hi Penelope,
I want to sign up, but it’s the end of the week isn’t over yet, is it? It’s Sunday. The price is already up to $195. I will sign up anyway, I just thought the offer would still be valid.
I’m an INFP and now I feel awful asking the question above, but I do ask questions. A lot. I’m in a constant search for meaning and understanding.
Sorry! I’m such a cone head! The price is right, I mixed up your offer with another one I was thinking of attending. Just forget what I said. I’ve been in Wonderland all day, so I should know better than to ask stupid questions about prices?!
Look forward to the seminar, although I will not be able to listen live, due to time zones. I live in Sweden. :) (At least I think I got the time zones right?!)
Argh! In typical ENFP form, I read this blog post days ago, committed to signing up for the seminar and then proceeded to procrastinate until today to actually pay the fee. Of course when I click on the Paypal link, the price had gone up (I thought that would happen on Monday). Oh well, an impromptu lesson in decisiveness…for only $45 dollars. Looking forward to the seminar!
Hi Penelope,
I am on the west coast and will be unavailable for three of the four nights of your course. That said, I am very interested in your insights. You mentioned that the videos will be downloadable. Would a someone still find benefit from just watching the videos afterwards or do they really need to be part of the live class? Just trying to decide whether it makes sense to sign up…
Thanks!
Jennifer
You’ll definitely still learn a lot from watching the videos afterwards. In the last class I did – How to Write about Your Life — many people watched one or two nights in a more convenient time slot rather than live, and they liked it just fine.
Penelope
Please do this again earlier for UK folks to take part. Sounds excellent. And fun. I have been tested and show up as ENTP. It’s fun but hard to keep going on one thing as a new idea pop up.. and another.. and another.
Thanks for the suggestion, Bernie. I think I might do that, actually – run another class later for people in other time zones. I have had a lot of requests.
Penelope
I also was totally immersed in MBTI when I first learned it. It all starts with trying to type everyone around you and having huge epiphanies. I think it’s even more so for an INTJ since we like to systematize everything and it helps us systematically make sense of the things that naturally are most baffling to us – social interactions.
Penelope, you linked to a free version of Rob’s “Type Coach” thing not too long ago and it was really unimpressive. For each letter there were several different questions with different implications that could only be answered by a single response. What’s in his real test that isn’t in there? Obviously something or he wouldn’t think he could charge for it.
It’s the same test as the one I link to that’s free. The difference is the information you get as results. We will use, in the seminar, the corporate package Rob sells with more explanations of how to use the test results.
Penelope